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Post  willow12 on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:43 am

Hasnít anyone ever thought of just going tothe authorities before? I mean, on a NATIONAL scale? You canít possibly believe that the monsters have control over every major institution in this country, can you?

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Re: Get a Clue!

Post  hunter9 on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:54 am

Willow, youíve got some problems if you canít see the holes that run right through all the happy make-believe parts of your argument. Just because monsters might not be involved in every single aspect of mundane life doesnít mean those agencies are going to run up and give you a high-five for sticking your neck out like that. Creatures or no creatures, any societyís business is preserving at least the status quo, or preferably the status quo ante, and any threat to that kind of mentality is going to be smacked down in short order by the most efficient means available.

Still donít believe me? Hereís a quick civics lesson for you - just bear in mind that Iím talking about the possibility of what these institutions will do to you without any help from monsters at all, just for messing with them. Add some monsters to the mix, ones who are really hell-bent on getting at you, and you have the stuff dystopian fantasies are made of.

Government
From the White House right on down the party that watches your house, government is a football for special interests of all kinds, none of whom have the slightest interest in letting you start some kind of civil war by going around telling people monsters are running around controlling their lives and snacking on the unwary. Rocking the boat is the greatest threat to a system thatís based on red tape, procedure and patronage jobs, and if thereís a better description of government than that, I havenít heard it. Point being, not only does government not want people like us going around telling other people like it is, it has thousands of ways to make your life a living hell if you try - if you thought taxes were high or utility service was lousy before, wait Ďtil you pick a fight with City Hall. Lost birth certificates? Deleted driverís licenses? Disconnected telephone service? Dead on paper, even though youíre still alive and well? All that and more is just a few phone calls away for those in power, should you give them cause to lift the receiver. Death by a thousand paper cuts is still death, after all, and bureaucracy sure has enough ways to make you miserable without ever really taking any overt action at all.

Business
Grant an organization most of the powers of a government (or all of them, in the right Third World nations) with half the restrictions and a much more efficient operating system, and you have yourself a modern multinational corporation. While individual employees or even some management types may have a conscience, in the end if any large business is confronted by a choice between turning a larger profit or making the right ethical choice, you can kiss your sweet Kant goodbye. Unless you have a plan to make some huge money off the proving existence of monsters and hunting them down, business isnít interested, no matter how eloquent your proposal might be. Now, businesses donít usually have the power to make your miserable as directly as governments do, unless theyíre in a position to dictate a lot of local policy (such as a factory the entire town depends on), but they hate it just as much when people rock the boat or blow the whistle, and theyíll hit you with all the trouble money can buy. Maybe your house just happens to be the perfect location for their next outlet store, or their lawyers show up with a summons for libel after you express your public dissatisfaction with them. And if you or anyone you know works for them at any level (not too hard with todayís multinationals), man, theyíve already won, you just donít know it yet. Itís easy to say that the cause is more important than a single job, but if that job belongs to your sister and itís her only means of supporting her kids, what are you really going to do?

Police
Repeat after me: l am a criminal. I commit criminal acts. The police are not my friends.
Once that sinks in, youíll know why we stop having any real friends on the local police force the moment the imbuing hits. Even if you donít commit crimes, itís all too easy to make it look like you have, especially ifthe local constabulary is losing patience with your crazy theories or odd late night habits. Maybe those were bogus charges you got rousted on, but that still means youíre spending at least a night in jail before it gets sorted out, and the police can be very efficient at losing records and covering for each other if it means keeping a persistent nusiance or suspected felon behind bars. While good cops certainly do exist, theyíre not anything you can count on - in fact, for us itís generally better to get a crooked one, because then at least you have a chance of bribing them when they catch you. Honest ones will just ride you in, and our chances of surviving to see trial are slightly worse than a child molesterís once we have any kind of monsters on our trail. And remember that to the police, youíre just one more crazy guy or desperate murderer - they might hear you ranting about monsters and coverups, but theyíre not really listening. So at best the police are still our enemies, just not
particularly interested ones; however, should you become a problem for them in any way, you better believe they will make their presence known to you in all kinds of ways youíd rather avoid. After all, with how strangely weíre all acting these days, will anybody stop them?

Underworld
So weíre criminals -why not hang around with those who commit crimes as a full-time occupation? Maybe we can even use their extensive connections to pull some strings and put the word on the street about the existence of monsters...
Yeah, right.
Who are you kidding?
First of all, organized crime is often a lot like the police for your lower-income neighborhoods, except they donít have to even bother pretending to be impartial - if you make yourself apest or otherwise threaten their interests in any way,
theyíll just work you over or disappear you outright, and no one else will say boo about it unless they want to be next. While crimeís not quite the family affair it used to be, itís still not anopencasting call either, and letís face it, most of us on this site have about as much chance to have what it takes to join the Mafia as we do to join the space
program. (And if you do have what it takes, get the hell out of my city!)
As for the rest of the day-to-day desperation of the semi-criminal underclass, well, hell, so much of it is due to what the monsters have done that itís practically impossible to tell where the human misery leaves off and the monster influence digs in.

Pop Culture
Ah, vox populi - and what a shrill voice it is these days, held by the windpipe as it is by a conglomeration of your aforementioned business and government interests. Even if you manage to go running to a television program that isnít owned by a conglomerate of some kind (good luck), or a newspaper that doesnít pass its work through one censor or another, itís simplicity itself for monsters to use their mouthpieces to write off the shocking revelation you imparted as a hoax, a publicity stunt or something similar. Thatís the problem with our jaded, video-game society these days
- the one time a fellow imbued went on television and actually demonstrated his powers for the studio audience, they immediately assumed it was nothing other than special effectsĒ (an angle the rest of the media quickly picked up on). Iíve got nothing to answer that, either, because I canít think of a single overt demonstration of our video lens. Itís a sickcycle; society demands proof of anything like what we have to say, then sets standards that make it impossible to prove by any means. Truth has at last become completely elastic, at least to the popular media- they can make it, or break it, or shape it as they see fit, simply by acting like they believe in one thing or cast aspersions on another.

Now are you so eager to run off to your local authority figures and tell them whatís going on?
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Re: Get a Clue!

Post  rigger111 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:21 pm

The short version is:

They'll think you're nuts, so don't waste your time.

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Re: Get a Clue!

Post  god45 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:34 am

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There are few topics which the varied personalities of this list can agree on. The prospect of revealing ourselves and the things we Hunt is possibly the only one that has managed to produce a near-total consesus. Specifically, that we cannot attempt to expose ourselves or to reveal the truth to the unwashed masses. If for no other reason, consider that we lose the effective tactical advantage of stealth and anonymity. We must expose ourselves to public scrutiny. In doing so, we paint a glaring target on whoever we select as our representatives, and we become that much easier to spot among the faceless masses as we give out information in order to legitimize ourselves.

No, attempting to contact the authorities is not an option. All forms of government are either heavily infected by the cancer or are completely co-opted by it. There is no "cavalry" to come to our aid. We act, and we act alone. In the matter of cleansing society, we have become the authorities.
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Re: Get a Clue!

Post  traveler72 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:45 am

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Anyone remember that Jared guy we saw on CNN? Or how about Gretchen Maggs, the chick who got arrested because she claimed to see vampires?

They're the reason we don't go to the authorities about what we see. Jared's dead. Doctor119 witnessed it. Nobody ever heard from that Gretchen woman again.

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Re: Get a Clue!

Post  omega89 on Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:14 pm

Why is it that this same, tedious theme is rolled out time and time again? Listen to what people have said above - society is riddled with monsters. Trying to bring the truth of our condition to its attention is a brilliant way to get yourself - and those you associate with - killed.
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Re: Get a Clue!

Post  rigger111 on Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:30 pm

Well ain't you just Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine...

People get repetative because they're jack-asses. Pointing out repetition is redundant. Redundant is repetation, by the way. Guess what that makes you.

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